The Third Space

The Third Space: The Poetry of Sudesh Mishra and The Paintings of John Forrest

John Forrest, R.A. Goodrich, Ann McCulloch, Sudesh Mishra

Published by the University of the South Pacific (UPS Publishing)



The Third Space is a unique publication, emerging from a collaboration between poet Sudesh Mishra, painter John Forrest, and philosophers and aestheticians Ann McCulloch and Ron Goodrich.


The book features 33 paintings and 33 poems; rather than serving as merely illustrations of the other, the authors/artists have experimented with how each artform can bring further significance to the other and make new meaning.


The accompanying essays by Ann McCulloch and R.A. Goodrich provide the reader/viewer with further entry points to this novel form of making meaning, discussing aesthetic, philosophical, historical and political questions endemic not only to the selected art and poetry but to questions governing creative art processes.


The resultant work occupies, as the authors propose, the ‘third space’.


Read the Introduction:


Ann McCulloch


Aligning pictures by John Forrest with poems of Sudesh Mishra is not an act of ekphrasis by either artist.  The pictures were not executed as an illumination of the poems nor the poems of the pictures.  Yet, as readers and viewers of this collection, this collision, of works, are we drawn into a space first articulated by Plato in the Phaidros?
Writing, Phaedrus, has this strange quality, and is very like painting; for the creatures of painting stand like living beings, but if one asks them a question, they preserve a solemn silence. And so it is with written words; you might think they spoke as if they had intelligence, but if you question them, wishing to know about their sayings, they always say only one and the same thing (275d).


Are we condemned, in these words of Sokrates, to the “solemn silence” of the painter and the reiterated “sayings” of the poet?  On closer inspection, we find that both artists are not beyond appropriating words and images from practitioners within their respective verbal and visual medium. In this book, the poet and the painter have been placed in a dialogic position to each other.


In the poem “Capri,” Sudesh Mishra writes of the impossible task for the poet or the painter to capture a certain light truly:


Neither brush nor biro

chisel nor cello

will restore

this reverant to form.


It will be the perception of the reader and viewer that will find meaning, as there is no attempt in this collection to impose meaning. What might be there instead is a presentation of a poet and a painter dealing with the “making of meaning.” Both deal in metaphor, which exudes from their perceptions of an object, a place, an idea that, through their artistic “intervention,” apprehends, perhaps, further “meaning.” It is also the processes of creativity, the making of art, the irresolvable dilemma of attempting to create from a world from which one cannot be separate which forms the common subject area. We cannot get outside our consciousness and watch ourselves; thinking about this as most philosophers and artists do is perilous. Yet Mishra and Forrest are nonetheless driven to do so, and, in so doing, they focus insistently on the complexities of creativity and lost identities as much as they focus on the world of history and politics. In “Capri,” Mishra speaks of that ultimate form which


is never really there,

is never the essential light

you long for,

grappa-clear, water neutral,

not the metaphor…



Fig 12. Untitled. Acrylic on canvas


Mishra may “play” at not seeing it, but a reader does, almost, due to a denial and its impossible presence. It is, we might think, not the transcendent beauty of the thing itself, but the force of imagination of the viewer who, in not actually knowing the form of what he or she sees, imagines it nevertheless as Forrest does in the accompanying painting, capturing


not the metaphor

but the light just before

and the light just after.


In Essays One and Two, McCulloch and then Goodrich will explore the poetry of Mishra and the paintings of Forrest. Their aim is to draw attention to the artists’ battles with representation. Are these struggles complexities inherent in both artists’ emulations of what appears to be, of turning the world into metaphor or metaphor into the world? And, as they attempt to solve the problems of creativity itself, they end by engaging in a dialogue with each other about the impact of history or family or politics on humankind. They represent the problems associated with representing the subsequent alienation and loss as much as they demonstrate the compensations found in making art.